I would donate - Porting SymbOS

[bwinkel67]

Btw, adding windowing support to something like ICE wouldn't have been too difficult, since QDOS already provides the foundation for it. Basically ICE would just have had to coordinate memory for windows to refresh when overwritten, as the IO was already handled by QDOS (just that apps would have to be written to follow that...same as how they have to follow that in any other GUI).

Below was my mock-up Amiga Workbench 2.1 demo that uses the QDOS window system. The appearance of the windows and icons is just a single image, but then again, in a real window manager, the appearance of those items would be created from separate image elements, so not too far off. Yes, it's an awful color palette, but when you run it on a monochrome monitor, it looks pretty close to Workbench 2.1.

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You can play with it yourself if you want. The ZIP contains an MDV with all relevant info. Just LRUN QLAmiga_bas and follow instructions it provides. Writing a simple BASIC "Hello" program in the window with the OK prompt and running it will give you the full experience.

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[vox]

Oh you made me like ICE1 even more.
If it supports mouse, which mouse should I buy, where, how much?

ICE comes in a mouse version called MICE where the mouse is directly attached to the board. That said, there is a German forum post I once saw where they have created a new ICE board that allowed for other mice to attach but I can't find it presently.

So if I got standard ICE I can only use KBD. Does anyone have MICE ROM, EPROM copier and that mice schematics? Since QL has standard 9 pin ports I wonder can more standard mouse Amiga Atari type be used?

[RalfR]

There is a German forum post I once saw where they have created a new ICE board that allowed for other mice to attach but I can't find it presently.

https://forum.tlienhard.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=879

[RalfR]

Oh you made me like ICE1 even more.
If it supports mouse, which mouse should I buy, where, how much?

ICE comes in a mouse version called MICE where the mouse is directly attached to the board. That said, there is a German forum post I once saw where they have created a new ICE board that allowed for other mice to attach but I can't find it presently.

So if I got standard ICE I can only use KBD. Does anyone have MICE ROM, EPROM copier and that mice schematics? Since QL has standard 9 pin ports I wonder can more standard mouse Amiga Atari type be used?

Please read carefully: The original mICE mouse is directly attached to the the EPROM, NOT in the QL! And there are very few programs using it. Do you really want a mouse just for copying files and using a calculator? Rubbish.

[Derek_Stewart]

Hi,

Look at 3 threads:

https://forum.tlienhard.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=804

https://forum.tlienhard.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=831

https://forum.tlienhard.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=879


The Forum is in German, but Google Chrome can translate it.

[bwinkel67]

So if I got standard ICE I can only use KBD. Does anyone have MICE ROM, EPROM copier and that mice schematics? Since QL has standard 9 pin ports I wonder can more standard mouse Amiga Atari type be used?

Please read carefully: The original mICE mouse is directly attached to the the EPROM, NOT in the QL! And there are very few programs using it. Do you really want a mouse just for copying files and using a calculator? Rubbish.

Yes, unfortunately the MICE mouse only works with ICE specific programs. So things like the MICE version of ArtICE (I think it's called MICEArt), etc. That list is somewhat limited. You can also just use a joystick (or keyboard) with ICE. I find that very workable and actually very similar to the IBM ThinkPad's TrackPad idea.

[bwinkel67]

There is a German forum post I once saw where they have created a new ICE board that allowed for other mice to attach but I can't find it presently.

https://forum.tlienhard.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=879

Thank you. I googled it and couldn't find it. Even put MICE and tlienhard.com in my query and still nothing :-/

[dex]

the MICE mouse only works with ICE specific programs.

Or with Your own (both Basic or assembler) programs using the ICE Toolkit with mouse pointer and menus (contains icon editor, too). Version 2 of the Toolkit supports mICE interface.

[RalfR]

Not so sophisticated as Giga-Basic, I think. And who has written programs with it?

[bwinkel67]

the MICE mouse only works with ICE specific programs.

Or with Your own (both Basic or assembler) programs using the ICE Toolkit with mouse pointer and menus (contains icon editor, too). Version 2 of the Toolkit supports mICE interface.

Oh cool...thought that copy is rough to read. Anyone have a copy of that they could scan in?