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Sinclair QL books.

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Hi!
I am looking for the following Sinclair QL books:
"Inside the Sinclair QL: An introductory guide to the hardware" by Jeff Naylor and Diane Rogers, and
"Sinclair QL Adventures: A micro adventurer's handbook" by Tony Bridge and Richard Williams.
If someone has one or both of them, just inform me.
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chriskgnr wrote: "Inside the Sinclair QL: An introductory guide to the hardware" by Jeff Naylor and Diane Rogers
Hello,

Out of curiosity: is there a specific reason why you are interested in this one? I find it rather lacking in QL-specific information. I have a copy but it is in rather poor condition.

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Hi Petri!

Along with the use of QL, i am try to learn more from books written for the QL. I found quite informative some books of "The SInclair QL Series", and the books from Sunshine publications. And to be honest, these two books are missing from my Sunshine series books! ;)


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chriskgnr wrote:Hi Petri!

Along with the use of QL, i am try to learn more from books written for the QL. I found quite informative some books of "The SInclair QL Series", and the books from Sunshine publications. And to be honest, these two books are missing from my Sunshine series books! ;)
Some QL books were scanned by Javier Guerra and his Spanish colleagues as a preservtion project for the 25th anniversary of the QL and they are available as PDFs here:
http://sinclairql.speccy.org/archivo/docs/docs.htm

If you go to http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseek.cgi and enter QL in the search box (optionally selecting books in the drop down) you'll find a few books. Most will just have a summary or cover picture, but some are available to download.

There's a lot of scanned SInclair publications (mostly Spectrum, a few QL including a copy of the Jan Jones QL SuperBasic book) at ftp://ftp.worldofspectrum.org/pub/sinclair/books/

Not quite sure if all these are entirely legal, though.

There's some second hand QL books at http://www.retrogames.co.uk/default/off ... s/QL_Books

Have a look on http://www.sellmyretro.com - there's usually second hand QL bits and books there.


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Hello dilwyn!
Among others, i found the "Sinclair QL Adventures: A micro adventurer's handbook" in pdf format! thank you :)
What do you mean when you're saying "Not quite sure if all these are entirely legal, though."? Isn't it legal to scan and post these books, after 30 years? :?


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ppe wrote: I have a copy but it is in rather poor condition.
Hello Petri! Are you willing to be separated from your book? :D


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I agree that it's better to play safe, but 70 more years from the authors death, is quite a waiting! :shock: Until then, i have become stardust! :lol: Anyway, i think that the real situation is as you described it in the last paragraph. ;)


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Just right now, i read in the link you gave, that "Copyright in a published edition expires 25 years from the end of the year in which the edition was first published."! But this refers for the EU?


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chriskgnr wrote:Just right now, i read in the link you gave, that "Copyright in a published edition expires 25 years from the end of the year in which the edition was first published."! But this refers for the EU?
I don't know. The link I gave doesn't make it 100% clear. That's why I asked someone to clarify.


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dilwyn wrote:
chriskgnr wrote:Just right now, i read in the link you gave, that "Copyright in a published edition expires 25 years from the end of the year in which the edition was first published."! But this refers for the EU?
I don't know. The link I gave doesn't make it 100% clear. That's why I asked someone to clarify.

UK copyright law has remained the same for many years and is fairly much the same across the world.
1996 saw an extension of the period of protection from life of the author + 50 years (now + 70 years), so works published before 1996 are subject to life of the author + 50 years.

This applies to written works (books, musical compositions, software, plays, magazine articles etc) and works of art.

There is also a specific copyright on sound recordings. This depends on whether it was broadcast or issued as a published edition (ie. was it transmitted by radio or TV waves, or was it published on a record, CD, Video, DVD etc).

If it was transmitted by radio or TV waves then the copyright expires either 50 years from when it was first made, or 50 years from when it was first transmitted (whichever is later - presuming it was still copyright when transmitted). They avoid the term transmission, in case there is another way of publishing a sound recording.

If it was published on a media of some kind (eg record, CD etc), then the copyright expires 25 years after it was first published on that media.

Take the following example: if a band makes a recording in 1960, then it is not transmitted on the radio until 1990 (when found in someone's shed), and released on record in 1992, the copyright in the recording would not expire until 1990 + 50 years (as it was transmitted whilst still subject to copyright).

If the band member who wrote the music dies in 2012, and the band member who wrote the lyrics dies in 2030, then the copyright in the musical composition lasts until 2012 + 50 years, the copyright in the lyrics until 2030 + 50 years.

This is all presuming the copyright is not owned by a corporate entity (as obviously the author may have assigned that right!).



As for QL Books and software - abandonware is a concept dreamt up by internet users who basically think that they should be free to make anything available for free download.

It is up to the copyright authors whether they are willing to take action - although someone in Brazil who publishes a piece of software written in 1984 by a UK software author working from his bedroom, may think it unlikely that they would be sued - you never know - the author can easily contact the website hosting provider and have the website removed for breaching copyright.

Plus quite a lot of copyrights were actually assigned to (or vested in) companies at the time - those companies have now grown up and are in many cases multi-national companies with huge turnover.

You may ask what interest they may have in a bit of software written in the 80s for the QL - well, you never know - look at Elite who published games for the Spectrum and have now acquired the rights and are making £1000s per year selling games to run as downloadable apps.

You may also find that the companies want to protect some of the routines used in the software, which they may still be using today in other software - for example Sage Accounts - I bet that still uses some of the coding techniques written when they launched QL Accounts.

I know that I have continued to use some of the same routines I wrote in the 80s and 90s in software I have produced over the past 2/3 years - maybe not using the same programming language, but using the same logic and techniques to resolve issues which had much more experienced colleagues stumped.

As some on here know, we have had recent experience of someone trying to make QL software freely downloadable and I was not the only copyright holder to force them to remove the downloads. What angered me most about it, was the fact that they go onto forums and then bemoan that they are asked to take down copyright material especially when that copyright is clearly indicated on loading screens, boot programs etc (!) and they even had the cheek to say when they published the programs that they knew that they were copyright but were going to do it anyway !


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