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are there music trackers for ql, and how sound works?
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:47 pm
by nitrofurano
i'm curious about if there is some kind of music tracker for, or targeting ql - tools like beepola and etc.
and in this context, where can we find detailed information about how sound works on ql
(all about unexpanded ql, of course!

)
Re: are there music trackers for ql, and how sound works?
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:28 pm
by bwinkel67
nitrofurano wrote:i'm curious about if there is some kind of music tracker for, or targeting ql - tools like beepola and etc.
and in this context, where can we find detailed information about how sound works on ql
(all about unexpanded ql, of course!

)
Here is a PDF on a BASIC program on Dilwyn's site:
http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/sound/QBITS%20E ... Sounds.pdf
There's an associated program. I did a video on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBdqAv9oPmI
I posted version 5 on this forum, which is a compiled version:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3902&p=44108#p44108
Re: are there music trackers for ql, and how sound works?
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:18 am
by stevepoole
Hi Bwinkel,
Thanks for the QBITS music tracker video. Very thorough and interesting. I would have liked to have seen this decades ago !
It does mention that the core routine uses PAUSEs, whereas the fastStaves program uses system-compatible wait loops, allowing much faster tempos.
The first version I posted can cater for staccato notes, (which I omitted from the second version to accelerate the innermost loop for 128ko).
FastStaves_bas replays even prestissimo samples with simultaneous real-time display of notes on screen. (Yet it is still only a prototype).
If there is suffficient interest, (downloads), I might do a graphical music input extension, to avoid having to write samples as DATA mnemonics lines.
I already prepared a version to play duo music over thirty years ago, rather than solo partitions, (but will have to bring that up to date).
The QL has great untapped music and sound potential, but very little has been mentioned on the subject in the past... but why ???
Best Regards, Steve.
Re: are there music trackers for ql, and how sound works?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:29 pm
by spkr
I'm developing a QL music tracker. Currently it supports a tracker interface, 255 instrument settings, 255 definable patterns, pattern sequencing (limited) and save/load (rudimentary) capability.
It has not been made publicly available yet. I never really had this intention, but if there is an interest, I don't mind sharing.
I provided the binary and sourcecode to my fellows of Five Finger Punch at the last demoparty we met at
Regards
Wietze
Re: are there music trackers for ql, and how sound works?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:41 pm
by dilwyn
spkr wrote:I'm developing a QL music tracker. Currently it supports a tracker interface, 255 instrument settings, 255 definable patterns, pattern sequencing (limited) and save/load (rudimentary) capability.
It has not been made publicly available yet. I never really had this intention, but if there is an interest, I don't mind sharing.
I provided the binary and sourcecode to my fellows of Five Finger Punch at the last demoparty we met at
Regards
Wietze
There is also source code and binaries to the old Miracle Midi Interace are on the Misc Programs page
http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/misc/index.html. Afraid I don't know if it can run without the (now very rare) interface, if you just want to try it for comparison. It's the Tracker software by Dan Gaffey, v1.3
Stats on my website show it's been downloaded a few times, I guess that implies there is at least some interest.
Re: are there music trackers for ql, and how sound works?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:38 pm
by Cristian
spkr wrote:I'm developing a QL music tracker. [...] but if there is an interest, I don't mind sharing.

Very interesting! Please keep us informed
Re: are there music trackers for ql, and how sound works?
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:04 pm
by ahw
spkr wrote:
It has not been made publicly available yet. I never really had this intention, but if there is an interest, I don't mind sharing.
I would definitely be interested. I'm always up for more retro sounds to work with.
Re: are there music trackers for ql, and how sound works?
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:19 am
by swensont
I've looked at the tracker for the ZX81. It is capable, but not easy to learn and the docs are as thin as a super model. Would be interesting to see a tracker on the QL, either using BEEP or the Sampled Sound System (SSS).
Tim
Re: are there music trackers for ql, and how sound works?
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:27 pm
by Dave
What about using the AY-3-8910 or YM2149?
Re: are there music trackers for ql, and how sound works?
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:25 pm
by spkr
Hi there guys.
Attached you find my current version of QLTracker. YMMV.
You have to mash around some buttons to figure out how it works. It generally follows some conventions of trackers, like edit mode, patterns, etc. If I remember correctly F4 and F5 do save and load state (or around there). Cursor keys navigate through the current `selected' UI area. I believe tab and escape or something may activate other UI areas, I cant recalll. if you really care, you will figure it out; or after some trying ask me
Regards,
Wietze
<edit> I seem to have uploaded the wrong file; corrected now.