Q40 and Q60 boards

[Peter]

Why not port smsq/e to Vampire V4 SA?

Why not try what already has been ported to Amiga, i.e. QDOS Classic?

[Tinyfpga]

Peter posted:- I asked on this forum if one of the Vampire owners could try QDOS Classic or Amiga QDOS with some QL software. Just a first step to see if the Apollo core is able to correctly run QL code at all. Not even that happend.
Why not try what already has been ported to Amiga, i.e. QDOS Classic?

Are you certain that there are some Vampire owners who are also members of this forum.
If there are, and none of them want to try running QDOS Classic or Amiga QDOS (what ever they are) on a vampire, then I might buy one and try these QDOSs out.

How would you rate the chance of QDOS Classic actually running on a vampire ?

I don't want a vampire but I can always try and sell it after I fail.

Where can I find copies of QDOS Classic and Amiga QDOS. What are they, and are there any instructions on how to run them on an Amiga?
Has anyone actually managed to run either of these OSs on an Amiga?

[vox]

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Where can I find copies of QDOS Classic and Amiga QDOS. What are they, and are there any instructions on how to run them on an Amiga?
Has anyone actually managed to run either of these OSs on an Amiga?
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They are SMSQE ported to AmigaOS
https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/vi ... 8&forum=27

I have tried, but Amiga users have no interest in QL.
What works on 020 works on 080.

[Derek_Stewart]

Hi,

This is Not SMSQ/E, but QDOS Classic Kickstart ROM produced by Mark Swift, who is a member here.

I do not have a Vampire, but I have an Amiga A1200 EZ Tower, that I picked locally from a person who wanted rid of the Amiga for £80, quite ggod geal, as stock A1200 go for over £200 on eBay. But the EZ Tower is a load of rubbish. So I run A1200 out of Tower Case on its bottom case and use a Elbox AT keyboard interface to a PS/2 keyboard. I have also bought a TF1260 interface for a 68060 and fitted a Q60B-66B CPU, which is 68RC060RC50M it is running at 50Mhz without any overclocking. All nie, just it runns AmigaDOS.

Maybe I need to get back to assembler programming and try and write a SMSQ/E Loader programme to run SMSQ/E on the A1200-60

I also have some Q60 boards, that need repair due to user intervention, mainly from taking the heatsink off the CPU, due some so-called expert in QL Today saying a certain type of 68060 CPU can be used, which meant the heat sink had to be removed to read the CPU ID number. Resulting in the Heat Sink not being put back correctly, which made the Q60 unstable. All fixable though.

So, question here is: I used to sell a Q60-80 which ran at 80Mhz, with a 68LC060RC75 fitted, could this run a 100Mhz?

[Peter]

So, question here is: I used to sell a Q60-80 which ran at 80Mhz, with a 68LC060RC75 fitted, could this run a 100Mhz?

I meant the principle, as in a new design, not the Q60 mainboard specifically.
And I'd prefer the MMU-less 68EC060RC75 for overclocking that much.

For the Q60, the PLDs would require faster speed grades and logic changes which I'm unlikely to implement.

[Peter]

What works on 020 works on 080.

Not in general. Apparently you didn't get my point.
It is not sufficient to know that Amiga code is executed correctly on a FPGA core!

The TG68K core also worked fine with Amiga code - but failed to even boot Minerva because of bugs.
And after those bug were eliminated, further bugs were triggered by specific QL software.

The Vampire core is pretty complex, so we can not take for granted that is contains less bugs.
Rather the opposite, TG68K.C has likely been used in more diverse FPGA systems and in higher numbers.

By the way, QDOS Classic is also on Dilwyn's QL Homepage on this server.

[vox]

I was V4 user for sometime and did ask Big Gun for Ql envirovment, similar to what they do with Fusion and MacOS Classic OR XAES and Atari, but he isnt interested.

You can try your luck at apollo forum
e.g. http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.ph ... note=26583

[Peter]

Should it be obvious for us who "Big Gun" is?

[Derek_Stewart]

So, question here is: I used to sell a Q60-80 which ran at 80Mhz, with a 68LC060RC75 fitted, could this run a 100Mhz?

I meant the principle, as in a new design, not the Q60 mainboard specifically.
And I'd prefer the MMU-less 68EC060RC75 for overclocking that much.

For the Q60, the PLDs would require faster speed grades and logic changes which I'm unlikely to implement.

I am okay with 66Mhz, 80Mhz will do.

Just have to find a supply of 68EC060RC75 CPUs

[guibrush]

ple:

I asked on this forum if one of the Vampire owners could try QDOS Classic or Amiga QDOS with some QL software.
Just a first step to see if the Apollo core is able to correctly run QL code at all. Not even that happend.

I didn't saw this inquiry. But as I'm an Apollo team member and have a V4, an Icedrake and a Firebird here at home, I can do some testing without problem. What do you want me to do? I newer launched anything QL related on the Amiga, let me know what I need to check.